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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: dodecane on July 04, 2011, 09:00 am

Title: Ergotamine
Post by: dodecane on July 04, 2011, 09:00 am
It doesn't get a lot simpler, no?
You have ergotamine, preferably the tartrate salt.
I have cash.
Title: Re: Ergotamine
Post by: nomad bloodbath on July 05, 2011, 05:10 am
I think by cash you meant bitcoins. :D
Title: Re: Ergotamine
Post by: dodecane on July 05, 2011, 07:24 am
I think by cash you meant bitcoins. :D
I think that goes without saying here.
Title: Re: Ergotamine
Post by: nomad bloodbath on July 05, 2011, 02:43 pm
Good to hear dodecane, there's been some issues with other vendors wanting to go with other forms of currency that are highly unsafe. :D
Title: Re: Ergotamine
Post by: Mitanox on July 05, 2011, 03:50 pm
I have a good connect for this, also Morning glory seeds if you decide to go that way. Ill inform for prices!
Title: Re: Ergotamine
Post by: truthiness on July 06, 2011, 10:41 pm
MG seeds aren't really that viable. Have you ever even heard of an LSD lab using them. There are reasons for that. How about not posting asking for something no one will sell you and instead spend your time researching alternative routes from legal start points. If you understood enough about chemistry to pull this off this thread wouldn't exist. Stop reading uncle fester's books, pull your head out of your ass, and start looking into patents. Threads like this will get your no where. People who do this have worked hard to get where they are and to have the access and know how that they do. Don't fucking come in half cocked looking for something no one will sell you because if you knew enough you wouldn't need to fucking ask. Hell if you can't figure out how to get to lysergic acid I'd love to see you even try to pull the rxns off with the hazardous chemicals involved if you were able to find them since you can't make them obviously LOL You think meth labs blow up a lot and they don't even utilize O2 sensitive reagents. I'm sure you won't have a problem getting the equipment needed either lmao I'm feeling friendly today so look into lysergol and bromocriptine. Two legal chemicals that can be turned into LSD with enough know how.  Now it's up to you to determine how to get there. Really easy if you understand what you're doing.

Title: Re: Ergotamine
Post by: DrDeepWood on July 20, 2011, 06:59 am
I have a solution for you: grow a culture of Claviceps Paspali (not standard ergot), extract the brew and you have around 1.5g of mixed lysergic acid amides PER LITER OF BREW.  A 5 gallon plastic water container with 4 gallons of brew is pretty standard, this is around 15 liters, which will net you around 22 grams of LSA's every 2 weeks. 

Perform a simple hydrolysis procedure with water and potassium hydroxide to cleave the amide group, giving you a small amount of ammonia gas and pure lysergic acid.  This is then very easy to precipitate from the solution and store for later use.  For most methods of making LSD you need anhydrous lysergic acid, lysergic acid which has the water stripped from it, which is very rough on the molecule.  You do this by heating it, but not too much to destroy the molecule, and pulling a vacuum on it for a certain amount of time.  Best thing is to preweight the flask and finish the process once the weight stops lowering.

 This procedure is very safe and will not give you gangrene.  No dangerous chemicals are involved and my special technique does not need a large amount of organic solvents like most ergot culture extraction protocols.

Claviceps paspali is a much safer version then claviceps purpurea but also works much better for fermenting.  This is because very small differences in the species, claviceps paspali will let the water soluble ergot alkaloids through the cell into the brew very easily, effecting the equilibrium and allowing more ergot alkaloids to be formed in the cell.

PM me if you are interested in this type of thing, I joined SR and was upset there was not a lot of chemistry going on here...


Title: Re: Ergotamine
Post by: Rook on July 20, 2011, 10:06 am
Where would I find a place where a lot of chemistry was going on?
Title: Re: Ergotamine
Post by: DrDeepWood on July 20, 2011, 10:24 am
Stop reading uncle fester's books, pull your head out of your ass, and start looking into patents.

Best chemistry advice I have ever heard.  I love finding a patent which is related to a synthesis I am interested in because: a) patents provide background information in laymans terms, b) patents arent written like scientific journals, where the target reader is a colleague scientist, they are written for someone "skilled in the art" which generally means someone who has taken a chemistry class or two. c) patents have "expiremental" sections where the synthesis is written out for you in a concise step but step procedure, in a way which is easy to read quickly.
Title: Re: Ergotamine
Post by: thecodex on October 06, 2011, 04:54 am
All I want is a source for ergot. Its junk to farmers. To process ergot you need a shit load of basic solvents but its not that hard.

Read Otto Snows book LSD. It has original patents and journal articles. Just follow the SO3 route. The reagents are cheap and nearly over the counter. Just substitute one solvent for dry DMSO and then BOOM you got a cheap 50% quality LSD lab. Yeah i know 50% is shit but you got to start somewhere.